hi,
i'm sorry but i'll have to write in english my dutch is not good ennough anymore.
so...people from a french forum did a petition against the slowness , the service, the disconections and the poor service of adsl2fit.
like i read on this forum. the same line with another isp l/p provide the maximum of it capacity.
we search a guy able to translate the letter from french to dutch. (and if possible this post too...)
and we invite you to join this chanel on irc :
server : irc.neoxys.org
chan : #a2f_sux
today our downstream was really bad and i think that lot of people, dutch like french thinks it's ennough.
i hope that we will be able to finaly get something from adsl2fit together.
petition against the adsl2fit slowness
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Gast
tests made today proof that the same line with another isp provide 100 % capacity.
so how could the problem come from scarlet ? if the same line from the same person but used with a different isp l/p provide the maximum of down / ipstream ?
do you have good speed results vscomp ?
so how could the problem come from scarlet ? if the same line from the same person but used with a different isp l/p provide the maximum of down / ipstream ?
do you have good speed results vscomp ?
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Gast
so please man tell us whats going on because "paul" never gives us an answer...he seems to prefer asking us for our synch speed...
like i said the same line...the same day...with another l/p grows up to 3.3 mbit using a planet internet l/P...that's really strange isn't it ?
the routing s**** too...isn't it true ?
so if you have an answer to our questions please answer it. and ask your friend paul to provide us the speed we wait for long months now. or we'll sent the petition to the consumer comitee for sure. 2 hours the project is launched and we already have more than 10 ppl ready to sign the stuff.
like i said the same line...the same day...with another l/p grows up to 3.3 mbit using a planet internet l/P...that's really strange isn't it ?
the routing s**** too...isn't it true ?
so if you have an answer to our questions please answer it. and ask your friend paul to provide us the speed we wait for long months now. or we'll sent the petition to the consumer comitee for sure. 2 hours the project is launched and we already have more than 10 ppl ready to sign the stuff.
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Mike21
Hey vscomp...
We don't care about good relationships with Paul B or other guy of the Team....
Good relations without result is a bulshit for me... They don't have any considerations about our requests.
"It's not our fault... it's scarlet...or BGC".... This is the only one answer they have.... They always reject the fault...
So people who wants to join us... welcome....
Mike 23
We don't care about good relationships with Paul B or other guy of the Team....
Good relations without result is a bulshit for me... They don't have any considerations about our requests.
"It's not our fault... it's scarlet...or BGC".... This is the only one answer they have.... They always reject the fault...
So people who wants to join us... welcome....
Mike 23
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There is something big going on right now at a2f and scarlet. We know most of it but we (the userbase crew) can't tell anything yet (because we were asked not to and because some things aren't clear yet). Hopefully we'll be able to post more information on the subject tomorrow.
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I will post some extra information.
Today two people of our Crew communicated with the main Staff of Adsl2Fit. Nob, the founder of Userbase, talked to someone and I talked to someone. And Nob and I evaluated the communications. The rest of the crew has also been informed. Both communications lasted for more than one hour on the expenses of Adsl2Fit.
I don't have a Adsl2Fit line, so every effort I put into this.. is to get all of you better lines.
First of all, starting a petition against A2F is pointless. The only thing you can blame A2F for is for having a poor communication to it's customers. Concerning the very low speed the only one to blame is Scarlet, so you would better point if you petition against them.
though I understand that A2F should provide what it sells!
Now, concerning the difference in testing with an @A2F account and an @PLANET account I discussed this with someone from A2F and the only thing that has come out of this.. is that or Scarlet disadvantages A2F users.. by capping the speed... or by being more favourite to it's own customers.. putting them first.
This is something that has been addressed to A2F and this will be talked over this week on a meeting between A2F personell and Scarlet Direction Staff. A2F promessed to provide us and all of our users with news about the meeting.
About's today DIP in speed.. something has gone wrong between 11am and 12pm. About 34Mbit/s in capacity has been lost and at the same time there were some major problems with other lines ... nobody nor A2F nor Scarlet could give an explanation for this. They are still looking into this.
This is a Scarlet problem, because Scarlet provides all bandwidth for A2F users.
I would urge a little more patience, I know it's hard and yes I have confronted the A2F staff today with the sentence: "next week will be better". I'm increasing the pressure on A2F and they are increasing the pressure on Scarlet.
We also have some amount of information that we have obtained today, that is not ready for publication YET, because of several reasons and because on some issues we do not have a third party confirmation.
We believe it's in the users interest to not publish any information which has not been confirmed or is not yet official.
Wa are following the A2F issues daily by phone starting from today and we will increase the pressure on A2F!
This soap has to end!
As Nukem has said, more information is coming... detailed (I promise), but you need a little more patience!
Do not speculate or start guessing.. at the appropriate time information will be addressed!
ps: At monday morning their could be a FULL outage on the A2F network, demanded by A2F at Scarlet to test en obtain proof of some problems.
It is not certain the outage will be initialized.. though it is possible.. so don't worry if on monday you will have a 30min. outage!
Today two people of our Crew communicated with the main Staff of Adsl2Fit. Nob, the founder of Userbase, talked to someone and I talked to someone. And Nob and I evaluated the communications. The rest of the crew has also been informed. Both communications lasted for more than one hour on the expenses of Adsl2Fit.
I don't have a Adsl2Fit line, so every effort I put into this.. is to get all of you better lines.
First of all, starting a petition against A2F is pointless. The only thing you can blame A2F for is for having a poor communication to it's customers. Concerning the very low speed the only one to blame is Scarlet, so you would better point if you petition against them.
though I understand that A2F should provide what it sells!
Now, concerning the difference in testing with an @A2F account and an @PLANET account I discussed this with someone from A2F and the only thing that has come out of this.. is that or Scarlet disadvantages A2F users.. by capping the speed... or by being more favourite to it's own customers.. putting them first.
This is something that has been addressed to A2F and this will be talked over this week on a meeting between A2F personell and Scarlet Direction Staff. A2F promessed to provide us and all of our users with news about the meeting.
About's today DIP in speed.. something has gone wrong between 11am and 12pm. About 34Mbit/s in capacity has been lost and at the same time there were some major problems with other lines ... nobody nor A2F nor Scarlet could give an explanation for this. They are still looking into this.
This is a Scarlet problem, because Scarlet provides all bandwidth for A2F users.
I would urge a little more patience, I know it's hard and yes I have confronted the A2F staff today with the sentence: "next week will be better". I'm increasing the pressure on A2F and they are increasing the pressure on Scarlet.
We also have some amount of information that we have obtained today, that is not ready for publication YET, because of several reasons and because on some issues we do not have a third party confirmation.
We believe it's in the users interest to not publish any information which has not been confirmed or is not yet official.
Wa are following the A2F issues daily by phone starting from today and we will increase the pressure on A2F!
This soap has to end!
As Nukem has said, more information is coming... detailed (I promise), but you need a little more patience!
Do not speculate or start guessing.. at the appropriate time information will be addressed!
ps: At monday morning their could be a FULL outage on the A2F network, demanded by A2F at Scarlet to test en obtain proof of some problems.
It is not certain the outage will be initialized.. though it is possible.. so don't worry if on monday you will have a 30min. outage!
Laatst gewijzigd door The Oddity 28 feb 2004, 20:56, in totaal 3 gewijzigd.
I love it when a plan comes together!
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Since I joined ADSL2FIT in September last year there has been a history of problems. Weeks sometimes where download speed nearly was 100-400bps, 1/10 of what the maximum speed should be. That maximum speed obtained with the 4Mbit contract has always been lower than that of skynet with its 3300kbps. Even in better time’s speed in the evening hour decreases till 200-800 bps. Again, our download speed during the day is not better than 100 bps. And we don’t see any explanation on the ADSL2FIT statuspage, the status page which was selected by Webvisie to be the way of communication between Webvisie and customer.
VSCOMP, how can you say that we should shut-up because you trust Paul. Who the heck is Paul. The only thing I know that my contract party is responsible for this mess and that is Webvisie. Should I guess who is the responsible party behind this problems? I don’t care as long as Webvisie does not explain it to me. Until that time Webvisie is the responsible party.
I think it is a good idea to listen to our guest from Wallonie in order to exchange experiences.
It has been enough! Of course, a technical problem is always possible, but this is close to malpractice.
VSCOMP, how can you say that we should shut-up because you trust Paul. Who the heck is Paul. The only thing I know that my contract party is responsible for this mess and that is Webvisie. Should I guess who is the responsible party behind this problems? I don’t care as long as Webvisie does not explain it to me. Until that time Webvisie is the responsible party.
I think it is a good idea to listen to our guest from Wallonie in order to exchange experiences.
It has been enough! Of course, a technical problem is always possible, but this is close to malpractice.
Resultaten van http://www.speedtest.nl
(Overgenomen op Sat Feb 28 2004 om 20:58:27 UTC+0100)
Download : 250.4 KByte/sec
Paul B is one of the owners of ADSL2FIT.
I trust Paul and i believe it if he says that they are working on the problem with scarlet.
(Overgenomen op Sat Feb 28 2004 om 20:58:27 UTC+0100)
Download : 250.4 KByte/sec
Paul B is one of the owners of ADSL2FIT.
I trust Paul and i believe it if he says that they are working on the problem with scarlet.
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Gast
250 kb/s...That smell favoritism...
i would like to be his friend too damnit...
we would not complain if we had such speed.
i would like to be his friend too damnit...
we would not complain if we had such speed.
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Come on mate, do you really think he would give a user better speeds then the others?
Paul says that the probs are with Scarlet so he wouldn't be possible to increase someones speed because he can't do anything about it
Paul says that the probs are with Scarlet so he wouldn't be possible to increase someones speed because he can't do anything about it
Your Sensei sends his greetz, SeNsEi Ze0n
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Seal
Don't want to be an a*hole but speeds are stable again (within A2F speeds I mean)
My view on your petition:
If you want to start one there is nobody holding you back although other then gather signatures there is no use for it seeing that the general terms and conditions (which I've just re-read) state that the speed-issue that we are experiencing lately is not eligable to be a point of discussion.
If you can access the internet then A2F has -to put it cruel- rendered it's commitment. Access speeds to different networks are not guaranteed nor the interconnection from your premisses to A2F.
To make a long story short.
Read the terms and you'll see what I mean.
My view on your petition:
If you want to start one there is nobody holding you back although other then gather signatures there is no use for it seeing that the general terms and conditions (which I've just re-read) state that the speed-issue that we are experiencing lately is not eligable to be a point of discussion.
If you can access the internet then A2F has -to put it cruel- rendered it's commitment. Access speeds to different networks are not guaranteed nor the interconnection from your premisses to A2F.
To make a long story short.
Read the terms and you'll see what I mean.
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Seal:
Not true. Consumer rights go further than that. It depends of what you reasonably can expect from a connection, also compared to what competitors offer. If this differs too much, you have all reasons to demand improvement. No matter if there is a signed contract, which does not guaranty speed.
Not true. Consumer rights go further than that. It depends of what you reasonably can expect from a connection, also compared to what competitors offer. If this differs too much, you have all reasons to demand improvement. No matter if there is a signed contract, which does not guaranty speed.
A2FLimburg:
Consumers have rights. I agree. And yes, we can "ask", not demand improvement. But not to the extent that you can start a petition with the intent of using this to discontinue a contract that you have with a company which- indeed not at the level of expectation- does provide you with the service that you signed on for.
Let me remind you that level of expectation on this is what we rely on from other/previous subscriptions with different companies.
In relation to A2F, this is besides the question.
As you stated on another of my posts, problems exist on a level out of control for A2F. Yes they can (and should/are doing so) apply pressure to the reseller where they have theire lines. We, as end-user, are facing the consequences of something that is beyond our control and we rely on A2F to fix this asap.
Consumers have rights. I agree. And yes, we can "ask", not demand improvement. But not to the extent that you can start a petition with the intent of using this to discontinue a contract that you have with a company which- indeed not at the level of expectation- does provide you with the service that you signed on for.
Let me remind you that level of expectation on this is what we rely on from other/previous subscriptions with different companies.
In relation to A2F, this is besides the question.
As you stated on another of my posts, problems exist on a level out of control for A2F. Yes they can (and should/are doing so) apply pressure to the reseller where they have theire lines. We, as end-user, are facing the consequences of something that is beyond our control and we rely on A2F to fix this asap.
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No matter who is the cause of the problems, I only deal with one party with which I signed the contract. No way they can say “it’s not my fault, it’s somebody else’s”.
I tell you, if I should like to discontinue my contract, it would happen right away. No problem. But I still hope that Webvisie will manage to improve their services. Their formula is unique in the Belgian market although I personally think that somehow they should limit the max traffic/month.
And because it's unique it influences the other providers.
I tell you, if I should like to discontinue my contract, it would happen right away. No problem. But I still hope that Webvisie will manage to improve their services. Their formula is unique in the Belgian market although I personally think that somehow they should limit the max traffic/month.
And because it's unique it influences the other providers.
The general terms stipulate that you cannot just quit A2F.
If you want to, you can under conditions: One I read is that they can -and most probably will- charge you the remainder of your term as it is a loss of income for them.
As for myself, I am awaiting June. If by then the service level has not improved I'll probably change ISP.
As stated before, the "unlimited" is not a big thing for me so I would do just fine with BGC or anybody else for that matter.
If you want to, you can under conditions: One I read is that they can -and most probably will- charge you the remainder of your term as it is a loss of income for them.
As for myself, I am awaiting June. If by then the service level has not improved I'll probably change ISP.
As stated before, the "unlimited" is not a big thing for me so I would do just fine with BGC or anybody else for that matter.
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Waar jullie toch over discusiëren 
Kunnen we niet allemaal blij zijn
A2F zal dat wel oplossen en als het zo lang duurt dan zullen er wel serieuze problemen zijn.
Kan de userbase crew garanderen dat A2F terug een normale snelheid zal hebben binnen X aantal weken/maanden ?
Kunnen we niet allemaal blij zijn
A2F zal dat wel oplossen en als het zo lang duurt dan zullen er wel serieuze problemen zijn. Kan de userbase crew garanderen dat A2F terug een normale snelheid zal hebben binnen X aantal weken/maanden ?
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Sorry AnD maar wij kunnen/mogen/willen niks garanderen. We kunnen even goed gaan verkondingen dat vanaf 1 maart er geen verkeersongevallen zullen voorkomen. Het is iets waar we geen controle over hebben noch enige inspraak. Wij moeten ook alles ondergaan en leven van de goodwill van ISP's. Ik wou echt dat ik er een datum kon op plakken dat vanaf dan het gedaan was met de snelheidsproblemen, maar dat kan ik helaas niet. Dit kan niemand eigenlijk. Dus ja 
Wat ik je wel kan vertellen is dat we ons zullen blijven inzetten en dat de a2f en scarlet niet gerust zullen laten.
Cheers
Wat ik je wel kan vertellen is dat we ons zullen blijven inzetten en dat de a2f en scarlet niet gerust zullen laten. Cheers
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Gast
I dont want to be difficult but they speak about a 34mbit line that felt away...
Now that is 4250kbyte/sec => take 200 kbyte for one user => 21 users that could have problems due to this.
Even if you take less like 100 kbyte per user, its only 42 users that could have a problem... thats very little....
And you say also major problems with other lines, well I guess that if they mention only the 34mbit line, that this was the biggest problem, and that the others are like 1mbit problems or so...
I cant believe that 34mbit can make a problem to all their network users... must be something else...
Now that is 4250kbyte/sec => take 200 kbyte for one user => 21 users that could have problems due to this.
Even if you take less like 100 kbyte per user, its only 42 users that could have a problem... thats very little....
And you say also major problems with other lines, well I guess that if they mention only the 34mbit line, that this was the biggest problem, and that the others are like 1mbit problems or so...
I cant believe that 34mbit can make a problem to all their network users... must be something else...
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Folks,
First of all, A2F is not giving favors to anyone on it's network. What is most likely from what I heard from the A2F crew, if their is a huge difference between several users in Speed. It's most likely that the person which the poor speed is on a LEX with an underdimensioned VP connecting the LEX to the BAS.
For example:
According to the info A2F has obtained the last few days, there are several LEX'es where there is e.g. a 2Megabit/s VP connecting the LEX with the BAS. What does this mean? This means that Scarlet who owns and maintains those VP's has underdimensioned their network. If someone on that LEX would subscribe for a 4Megabits A2F or other subscription, they would not obtain 4Megabit, because the medium in between only allows 2Megabit.. what do we have: we a have a bottleneck in the Scarlet network. What does this mean also: if there are several adsl subscribers on that LEX they will share the bandwidth of that VP. If there is one which starts 1st and starts downloading like hell.. then he will pull all bw to him. (similar to TN problems)
According to A2F it is very likely that their are several bottlenecks like that causing for a lot of trouble. Particular for the people with 8Mbit/s subscriptions.
Now, like I stated this week there is a meeting between the A2F staff and Scarlet Staff and one of the issues is to obtain a plan of all connecting VP's in the Scarlet network.
Kunnen wij garanderen dat deze snelheid ooit beter wordt? Neen.
Maar uit gesprekken die ik heb gehad met de mensen van A2F, merk ik toch dat er degelijk vanalles gedaan wordt met Scarlet en met Belgacom om dit probleem op te lossen. Ik heb hen dezelfde vraag gesteld en heb toen het antwoord hier ook al gepost.
Ik kan maar 1 ding zeggen en dat is dat er van uit een bepaalde hoek een smerig spel gespeeld wordt in gans dit probleem... en dat daar aan gewerkt wordt. Meer kunnen we nu ook niet zeggen omdat we de info niet bevestigd krijgen.
A2FLimburg, ik versta wat je wil zeggen, maar Seal heeft ergens een punt, je kan hen niet vervolgen wegens nalatigheid . Ze garanderen immers nergens een snelheid. Waarom doen ze dit niet? Omdat Scarlet hen ook geen snelheid garandeerd (of slechts iets minimaal). Maar inderdaad jij betaalt aan A2F, dus jij wil je probleem oplossen met A2F. Maar ik kan je verzekeren, A2F is wel effectief bezig met dit probleem.
About the 34Mbit/s, we also can't believe that is causing all problems.. but that is what they have noticed. Possible there was something else in play.. and it seems that by this time it's resolved.
First of all, A2F is not giving favors to anyone on it's network. What is most likely from what I heard from the A2F crew, if their is a huge difference between several users in Speed. It's most likely that the person which the poor speed is on a LEX with an underdimensioned VP connecting the LEX to the BAS.
For example:
According to the info A2F has obtained the last few days, there are several LEX'es where there is e.g. a 2Megabit/s VP connecting the LEX with the BAS. What does this mean? This means that Scarlet who owns and maintains those VP's has underdimensioned their network. If someone on that LEX would subscribe for a 4Megabits A2F or other subscription, they would not obtain 4Megabit, because the medium in between only allows 2Megabit.. what do we have: we a have a bottleneck in the Scarlet network. What does this mean also: if there are several adsl subscribers on that LEX they will share the bandwidth of that VP. If there is one which starts 1st and starts downloading like hell.. then he will pull all bw to him. (similar to TN problems)
According to A2F it is very likely that their are several bottlenecks like that causing for a lot of trouble. Particular for the people with 8Mbit/s subscriptions.
Now, like I stated this week there is a meeting between the A2F staff and Scarlet Staff and one of the issues is to obtain a plan of all connecting VP's in the Scarlet network.
Kunnen wij garanderen dat deze snelheid ooit beter wordt? Neen.
Maar uit gesprekken die ik heb gehad met de mensen van A2F, merk ik toch dat er degelijk vanalles gedaan wordt met Scarlet en met Belgacom om dit probleem op te lossen. Ik heb hen dezelfde vraag gesteld en heb toen het antwoord hier ook al gepost.
Ik kan maar 1 ding zeggen en dat is dat er van uit een bepaalde hoek een smerig spel gespeeld wordt in gans dit probleem... en dat daar aan gewerkt wordt. Meer kunnen we nu ook niet zeggen omdat we de info niet bevestigd krijgen.
A2FLimburg, ik versta wat je wil zeggen, maar Seal heeft ergens een punt, je kan hen niet vervolgen wegens nalatigheid . Ze garanderen immers nergens een snelheid. Waarom doen ze dit niet? Omdat Scarlet hen ook geen snelheid garandeerd (of slechts iets minimaal). Maar inderdaad jij betaalt aan A2F, dus jij wil je probleem oplossen met A2F. Maar ik kan je verzekeren, A2F is wel effectief bezig met dit probleem.
About the 34Mbit/s, we also can't believe that is causing all problems.. but that is what they have noticed. Possible there was something else in play.. and it seems that by this time it's resolved.
I love it when a plan comes together!
http://www.adslbox.be speed test results:
- Download speed : 2090 kbit/s or 261 kbyte/s
- Upload speed : 69 kbit/s or 9 kbyte/s
Sun Feb 29 2004 at 11:14:35 UTC+0100
Good results
There network seems to be stable again.
The upload is not yet upgraded this is why i have such a slow upload speed.
All speedtest are good now
- Download speed : 2090 kbit/s or 261 kbyte/s
- Upload speed : 69 kbit/s or 9 kbyte/s
Sun Feb 29 2004 at 11:14:35 UTC+0100
Good results
There network seems to be stable again
.The upload is not yet upgraded this is why i have such a slow upload speed.
All speedtest are good now
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ff officieel bevestigen.
Net telefoon gekregen van de mensen van Adsl2Fit, dat er gisteren rond 8u opnieuw een dip moet geweest zijn, maar dat het sinds deze morgen voor het overgrote deel van het netwerk terug in orde moeten zijn.
Reden van de problemen: onbekend.
Navraag bij Scarlet: antwoord van Scarlet: geen idee.
Het zou om een misconfiguratie langs de kant van het Scarlet netwerk zijn, maar er is grote onduidelijkheid.
Hierover zouden antwoorden van Scarlet moeten komen deze week. Adsl2Fit houdt ons op de voet op de hoogte ivm de Scarlet issues.
Meer nieuws volgt vermoedelijk morgen.
Hier en daar zijn nog wel enkelingen die troubles hebben. Uit traceroutes, blijkt dat opnieuw te gaan, om problemen op KPN, want het start vanaf KPN. Verklaring konden ze niet geven.
Net telefoon gekregen van de mensen van Adsl2Fit, dat er gisteren rond 8u opnieuw een dip moet geweest zijn, maar dat het sinds deze morgen voor het overgrote deel van het netwerk terug in orde moeten zijn.
Reden van de problemen: onbekend.
Navraag bij Scarlet: antwoord van Scarlet: geen idee.
Het zou om een misconfiguratie langs de kant van het Scarlet netwerk zijn, maar er is grote onduidelijkheid.
Hierover zouden antwoorden van Scarlet moeten komen deze week. Adsl2Fit houdt ons op de voet op de hoogte ivm de Scarlet issues.
Meer nieuws volgt vermoedelijk morgen.
Hier en daar zijn nog wel enkelingen die troubles hebben. Uit traceroutes, blijkt dat opnieuw te gaan, om problemen op KPN, want het start vanaf KPN. Verklaring konden ze niet geven.
I love it when a plan comes together!
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Goed bezig zeg...Reden van de problemen: onbekend.
Navraag bij Scarlet: antwoord van Scarlet: geen idee.
Styno
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq'|dc
echo '16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlbxq'|dc
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Gast
Hallo, kan er mij iemand nog es de gegevens geven om op het chatkanaal te geraken van ADSL2FIT via MIRC ?
Alvast bedankt
Alvast bedankt
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Provider
Beste,
adsl2fit heeft geen eigen irc kanaal. Maar sporadisch komt er iemand van a2f op het userbase kanaal. Info kan je vinden op de portal: <a href="/forum/portal.php?show=irc">IRC-kanaal</a>.
Grtz,
Sasuke
adsl2fit heeft geen eigen irc kanaal. Maar sporadisch komt er iemand van a2f op het userbase kanaal. Info kan je vinden op de portal: <a href="/forum/portal.php?show=irc">IRC-kanaal</a>.
Grtz,
Sasuke
Who the fxxk is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk ?
Waarom hier nog verder over zeveren?
Petitie tegen adsl2fit om netwerkproblemen da heeft geen enkele zin
Zij steken zich altijd weg achter scarlet en die achter Belgacom
Raar ze krijgen geen deftige antwoorden omdat ze maar kleine provider zijn maarja eigelijk verdienen zij van zo behandeld te worden
Ze zijn af en toe ook nie eerlijk naar hun (ex)klanten toe
Beantwoorden met moeite hun brieven of emails
Da s zijn mijn persoonlijke ondervindingen en daarmee bedoel ik dat ik zelf niks meer stuur naar adsl2fit maar het overlaat aan een advokaat
Dus stop deze topic maar geeft enkel maar wrevel en gezaag maar lost niks op wat het probleem betreft
Petitie tegen adsl2fit om netwerkproblemen da heeft geen enkele zin
Zij steken zich altijd weg achter scarlet en die achter Belgacom
Raar ze krijgen geen deftige antwoorden omdat ze maar kleine provider zijn maarja eigelijk verdienen zij van zo behandeld te worden
Ze zijn af en toe ook nie eerlijk naar hun (ex)klanten toe
Beantwoorden met moeite hun brieven of emails
Da s zijn mijn persoonlijke ondervindingen en daarmee bedoel ik dat ik zelf niks meer stuur naar adsl2fit maar het overlaat aan een advokaat
Dus stop deze topic maar geeft enkel maar wrevel en gezaag maar lost niks op wat het probleem betreft
Volledig akkoord dat er a2F het een en het ander te verwijten valt, maar het is wel duidelijk dat het probleem niet enkel bij hen ligt.Lion schreef:Dus stop deze topic maar geeft enkel maar wrevel en gezaag maar lost niks op wat het probleem betreft
Zelf heb ik geen a2f maar ik kan me wel voorstellen dat er heel wat a2f gebruikers tevreden zijn dat de ub-crew (waaronder sommigen ook geen a2f hebben!!) de moeite doet om contact op te nemen met a2f én dat diezelfde crew de verkregen informatie hier post. Dus volgens mij is er geen enkele reden waarom deze topic gestopt zou moeten worden.
Greetz
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Kitterick
If you are unhappy with A2F, you can sign up this petition.
http://www.myprice.be/petition_adsl2fit.asp
http://www.myprice.be/petition_adsl2fit.asp
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Bart
http://www.adslbox.be speed test results:
- Download speed : 36 kbit/s or 5 kbyte/s
- Upload speed : 120 kbit/s or 15 kbyte/s
Sun Mar 21 2004 at 21:33:34 UTC+0100
geen komentaar !
- Download speed : 36 kbit/s or 5 kbyte/s
- Upload speed : 120 kbit/s or 15 kbyte/s
Sun Mar 21 2004 at 21:33:34 UTC+0100
geen komentaar !
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Gast
eind december klant geworden (overstap van telenet) dit was een hele verademing voor mij.
bijna de helft van de prijs, limitloos, en tot enkele weken geleden gemiddelde snelheden (200-350KB/s). maar sinds enkele dagen is dit niet meer te houden.
net een speedtest gedaan en ik kom uit op :
download speed: 142kbit/s or 18kbyte/s
upload speed: 419kbit/s or 52kbyte/s
dit is toch beneden alle pijl!
maar om zover te gaan als het tekenen van een anti ADSL2fit petitie...
'K zou dees toch voor geen geld in de wereld willen missen hoor... alles beter of telenet/skynet.
nu maar hopen dat dit in de komende dagen opgelost raakt.
bijna de helft van de prijs, limitloos, en tot enkele weken geleden gemiddelde snelheden (200-350KB/s). maar sinds enkele dagen is dit niet meer te houden.
net een speedtest gedaan en ik kom uit op :
download speed: 142kbit/s or 18kbyte/s
upload speed: 419kbit/s or 52kbyte/s
dit is toch beneden alle pijl!
maar om zover te gaan als het tekenen van een anti ADSL2fit petitie...
'K zou dees toch voor geen geld in de wereld willen missen hoor... alles beter of telenet/skynet.
nu maar hopen dat dit in de komende dagen opgelost raakt.
